aahh my apisto..

for the last week or so both of my Agassizii had been hiding and wernt comming out for food they hadnt spawned but they just staid in diffrent caves. but a few days ago the male started feeding again but has stopped again now. the female seems worse for the last 3 days she has hee in the top left corner of the tank next to the filter and is up right at the top of the tank and isnt eating or moving much she isnt moving her mouth atall but her gills are still going. so i put her in a breeding trap last night to see if i could get her to eat but she still wont and is still floating upright.what could it be the water is perfect and i did a big water change yesterday to see if that would help but no. im treating them with a anti internal bacteria med just to see if that helps but is there anything else i can do? this is really anoying they took agers to pair up ive never had any problems with them being ill and then a few months ago they paired up and spawned a few times but ate the eggs but now they go and get ill so i really dont want to loose them and have to go throught the pairing up thing again.

Nooo not the Apisto's.

Knowing what you're like with your Apisto's, i know you would have checked and double checked the water stats etc.....

Have you fed any live food recently? Thats one way baddies can get in your tank From the description you have given, it does lead me to think its internal though, so complete the course of meds you have started and see what happens.

I take it there's no flicking or fast movements going on?

yh i have lol u know what im like with these :]
last live foods where about 3 weeks ago and i did feed them live foods about 5 days ago but they where alredy like this and i was hoping this might get them out.
no flickin and not really any movment at all let along fast i havent seen the male i 2 days but i dont what to start messing around with the caves and stress him out more. the tetras all seem fine though so im really not sure.

Very strange that the tetras are ok? You would have thought they would have shown signs that something was a miss long before the Apisto's.

How old are Apisto's?

uuuummm ive had them since the start of the summer holidays so over 6 months and the female was 1" and the male 2" when i got them so i wouldnt think that old and they dont look old i think the female is still growing and the male seems to be at his full size but i wouldnt say its because of old age.

I agree then, they are only babies really There hasn't been any chemicals used near the tank has there? Like fabreeze or polish?

nah
the only thing i can think of is deodorant but ive alway used that near the tank and if was goig to affect any fish i would have thought it would have been the betta because they breath the air and if it was that surely the tetra would be affected aswell. i really cant think of anything it could be and thats whats worrying me.

the male seems to be a bit better today he had a few flakes ive seen him out twice today. the female is still loking bad and not eating ands still in the breeding trap. im feeding her liquid fry because she hasent eaten in about a week so i though thats better than nothink.

ahh shes just getting worse and worse shes pretty much stoped moving and her gills are going really slowly and her mouths not moving and shes still upright. atleast the male seems fine now still hiding more than normal but atleast hes eating again. i really dont want to loose her the amount of effort i put into trying to get the to look after the fry and spawn and then she goes and dies :[

the males seems fine now. the female looks better she ate today and is swimming round more so touch wood i think she might pull through.

Thats great news Kizno If anyone could save them I knew you could

Good news on them both. Lets hope they both make a full recovery. It would be awful to lose those when you've put so much hard work into them [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

there looking evan better now males back to perfect amd the females is still floating at a bit of a angle but not as bad as see was and shes eating now she had live blood worm today which where gone the second they hit the water so hopefully she should be back to normal soon. now i got a problem with my cory though so a bit of a pain.

Thats good news about the Apistos [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] We have a problem with Nettys female Ram [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Loss of colour, acting quiet, so have popped her in a breeding trap and treated.

thats a pain i was just thinking i wonder how they are doing and if they have paired up yet lol.

They dont seem to take much notice of each other really. The male is looking good and bright though [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

lol that how my apisto where for the first few months the only time they would notice each other was when they would nick there food :] yh the males are lovely i saw some nice matalic blue rams today there the same sort of thing as gold and blue rams. what have you got in with them or is it just them?

There's 6 X-ray tetras and 3 Pygmy corys (should have been 4 but only 3 in the bag).

they are a bit small to see if theres 3 or 4 on a bag :] if them rainbows do get a bit to agressive for the 40g then they would do fine in there rainbows are ok with high temps that rams need and im sure the rams would soon sort them out

The tank wouldn't be big enough for the rainbows. They're in 180L at the mo and they use all of it [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]