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Post by Nataliey on Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:57 pm

Today me and my hubby went to a different aquatics store that was recommended to me by one of my friends (needed some bloodworm), been their briefly before and was disgusted by the living environments for the bettas then...they had them in clear plastic cups that you would use at a childs party!
Today when i went in they must have thought they'd improved the bettas living spaces by putting them in slightly larger clear plastic tubs, but they had only filled them a quarter of the way up with what looked like frogbit floating on the top. The bettas could hardly swim around, most of them their tail fins where non-exsisant and some where even sitting on the bottom of the tub looking dead!! These bettas where described as show bettas but where no way in the slightest looked like show bettas.
These living conditions are disgraceful and as you can probably tell i get upset about this Evil or Very Mad
Is there anything i could do like report them to the RSPCA or anyone that deals with the cruelty to animals/fish??

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Post by Taelin on Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:02 pm

That's terrible! The lfs here do that, too. Although there is one that uses tiny little cups. The poor bettas can barely turn themselves around in them. And forget about swimming!

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Re: It's so cruel!!

Post by Nataliey on Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:04 pm

Thats the worse place iv seen a betta kept...all the other places kept them in small boxes at least they had room to move! Id never buy a fish from there!

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Post by Vandraco aka Bronzecat on Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:24 pm

You can report them to the local council. Its the council that deal with pet shop licences. The council have the authority to enter pet shops in order to confirm complaints, where as the RSPCA do not.

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Re: It's so cruel!!

Post by Nataliey on Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:46 pm

Vandraco aka Bronzecat wrote:You can report them to the local council. Its the council that deal with pet shop licences. The council have the authority to enter pet shops in order to confirm complaints, where as the RSPCA do not.

Thanks im going to try that then as there is no need for their poor living spaces!

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Post by Vandraco aka Bronzecat on Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:14 pm

You can give the council the web address of our website for reference about care if you like. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

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Post by incognito on Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:22 pm

i'd also add the link to basic general care/responsibility under the animal welfare act incase you get a total non fish keeper at council who doesn't have a clue...

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Re: It's so cruel!!

Post by Nataliey on Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:55 pm

Thanks Van and incognito il let you know how i get on...hopefully somewhere!

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Post by silverrabbit on Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:24 pm

Hope you get somewhere with that complaint, I hate seeing how bettas are kept, just fuels the belief that they can live in stupidly bad conditions

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Re: It's so cruel!!

Post by Vandraco aka Bronzecat on Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:25 pm

The Maidenhead aquatics at the place I work has just installed purpose built Betta barracks. Each section is about 2 gallons, all fully filtered thumbup

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Post by Nataliey on Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:00 pm

Thats really good Van, i find that all the Maidenhead aquatics iv been to have proper living spaces for the bettas. Very Happy
The fish store im talking about is only located in Wigan its not a wide spread company...to be honest id say most of the fish there are kept in small confined tanks with lots of fish crammed into them. I only really go there as they have a very big variety of food and other things for my fish.

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Post by OceanMaria on Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:25 am

I hope your complaint helps! I hate hearing about poor animal living conditions, abuse,ect... and if I see it omg-that's worse....It just breaks my heart!! Sad

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Post by Nataliey on Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:59 am

OceanMaria wrote:I hope your complaint helps! I hate hearing about poor animal living conditions, abuse,ect... and if I see it omg-that's worse....It just breaks my heart!! Sad

I know what you mean as im sure there's no need!

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Re: It's so cruel!!

Post by Assaye on Sat May 01, 2010 11:59 am

Sounds pretty nasty =(

I've contacted the local council about bettas before and it was a total flop. They did an inspection and the guy that owned the shop just gave them the usual "they live in small puddles" speech and they phoned me back to say that everything was in order and they would not be looking into it further.

If you want a shot at saving these fish, take some photos and send the council an e-mail detailing how the bettas are treated AND with loads of links and other information about bettas, such as their natural environment, temperature range, feeding requirements, stuff about ammonia build up, etc. If you can get a sample of the water to test, do it. Maybe take a little syringe and steal some water when you are next there. You'll only need enough for an ammonia test.

Also complain to the store about it - phone them, send an e-mail, etc. Don't let them fob you off!

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Re: It's so cruel!!

Post by Irish_Lass on Sat May 01, 2010 12:49 pm

Vandraco aka Bronzecat wrote:The Maidenhead aquatics at the place I work has just installed purpose built Betta barracks. Each section is about 2 gallons, all fully filtered thumbup


Sounds fantastic Van. I'm impressed! Smile

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Post by silverrabbit on Sat May 01, 2010 8:19 pm

That's really helpful Assaye, going to try that if I see neglect. I'm lucky in that my local MA keeps them in filtered tanks and my 2 best LFS's keep them either in frequently water changed boxes (been in there 2 days in a row and changes were going on both mornings), or in a filtered betta specific system.

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